cockedtail:

doreenchartreuse:

i keep seeing people bring up the whole “but chara laughed when asgore got sick from eating the flowers” when saying they’re evil/irredeemably so, but can i just….

“You laugh, and keep laughing. It’s SO funny, you can’t stop. Tears run down your face. … what? You didn’t do that?”

you get this during the fight with snowy’s mom…. kinda seems like chara laughs when they’re upset/disturbed. at least that’s how i interpret it????

this is totally valid because a lot of people may laugh in distressing situations and that’s a big coping mechanism. for someone like Chara, who is heavily implied to have been abused by the humans, this may be a coping mechanism and most likely laughed because “oh hahahaa you fucked up again oh my god look at that!!  hahahah!!!” and this is actually not as uncommon as people may think and the reality is is that people do it all the time. we even do it when we get hurt (like falling and scraping your knee– it hurts but you’re laughing and it’s not funny).

i wanna emphasize on the point with Snowy’s mother. this part of the game, this specific “battle” is probably one of the saddest in the entire game. her “battle” isn’t even a real battle. her attacks all fall to the bottom of the box, or just move over you slowly, using like 1-5 bullets. it’s slow and really depressing. they’re more like tears. she looks lonely, really sad, and tired. during the battle, she calls her son’s name multiple times. the music is eerie and really upsetting. chara and frisk are both really disturbed by this fight (and the True Lab in general) and if you pick Laugh the first time it says “You laugh, and keep laughing. It’s SO funny, you can’t stop. Tears run down your face….what? You didn’t do that?” as if Chara is surprised that Frisk didn’t react that way. if you pick laugh again, they say, “But it wasn’t funny.” a flat response. 

when Asriel and Chara poisoned Asgore, it really seems like an innocent mistake. these are two kids who wanna make something for their dad, but there was no more butter. so they did the next best thing, right? they put in an ingredient that sounds almost the same. “buttercups” instead of “cups of butter”. like these are kids who made a mistake, and Asriel showed distress while Chara showed distress in a different way. 

other than that there is really nothing else that suggests that Chara hated any of the Dreemurrs. sure Asriel says that they “weren’t the nicest person” but by no means were they evil. like they say that into comparison with Frisk who is literally the epitome of kindness in the game. even Monster Kid says that Undyne isn’t really all that nice, and they like Papyrus instead now. we still love Undyne though. and even though Asriel says that about Chara, he still loves them. he stays with them in the end. Chara’s memories of love for Asriel are what saved Asriel. Chara did love the Dreemurrs, and for them to laugh at this accident sounds more like “they gave me everything and i fucked up so badly hahaah oh fuck oh fuck” and in the end they use that knowledge of the flowers to kill themselves in a slow, gruesome, and horribly painful way. like it’s just horrible.

Chara did take after the Dreemurrs. they take after Toriel in their speech patterns a lot, made the Mr Dad Guy sweater for Asgore, describe the Worn Dagger as a gardening tool instead of a weapon in pacifist (most likely enjoyed gardening, perhaps with Asgore), most likely made that macaroni flower picture for (as it was their favorite flower), Asgore still drinks golden flower tea, and both Toriel and Asgore take care of their favorite flower (Toriel even burying them under it). Asriel was desperate to keep you around because they thought you were Chara. through Chara’s memories it was very obvious they loved the Dreemurrs. 

i really really really really doubt that the poisoning was out of malice.